thanks for the replies.well thats the first thing i was doing wrong, i had the lever in the other position. but with the gears where your arrow is pointing the set up was similar but with the small gear on the inside.now to get the two big gears on the outside to mesh (50 and 40)i undone like you said that stud and pushed it out to the max so they would mesh but to get the inside gear to mesh the big gear hits on the stud with the oiler thing in it.On the weekend i will try using the lathe chart and the lever in the other position,by the the way i`m from just outside ballarat, cheers dave