That doesn't always work, there are patent trolls out there that are listed on the stock exchanges, if you want to learn a bit more that, watch the video I ran across last evening, 'Why the U.S. Patent System is literally SCAM! | The Patent Scam | FD Finance' The patent office is allowing the patent of ideas, someone could make an unbelievable vague patent that covers the use of the those lasers and sue anyone that uses them, the lawyers said it could cost you three years and $3M to win against the trolls!
Black Widow V8 difficulty?
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Badhippie
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Hello all
Don’t mean to jump in here. If this engine the guy is claiming to have the rights to. It would’ve had to had a patent on it correct. Ok so let’s say it did have one and depending how it was classified the patent would be good for 20 years or 30 years. But the deal is if it was covered and then sold the patent is no longer any good the patent does not go to the next owner nor do any rights to anything. The engine all the drawings all of it would no longer be covered by any patent. As per the United States patent regulations. Also if you are the original owner of the patent and you change the drawings later in life those changes are not covered under the original patent design. As per the United States patent office rules. You cannot simply buy the patent or rights to something and claim you own the rights to it because the patent does not follow the item. And it is the same way with trademarks once it is sold the trademarks are over. I believe this is how this works from what I am told by a parent attorney that I happen to know very well.
Tom
Don’t mean to jump in here. If this engine the guy is claiming to have the rights to. It would’ve had to had a patent on it correct. Ok so let’s say it did have one and depending how it was classified the patent would be good for 20 years or 30 years. But the deal is if it was covered and then sold the patent is no longer any good the patent does not go to the next owner nor do any rights to anything. The engine all the drawings all of it would no longer be covered by any patent. As per the United States patent regulations. Also if you are the original owner of the patent and you change the drawings later in life those changes are not covered under the original patent design. As per the United States patent office rules. You cannot simply buy the patent or rights to something and claim you own the rights to it because the patent does not follow the item. And it is the same way with trademarks once it is sold the trademarks are over. I believe this is how this works from what I am told by a parent attorney that I happen to know very well.
Tom
I think it is a copyright issue, not a patent issue.
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Badhippie
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I agree I should have read the thread a little closer.
But I still think someone is blowing smoke
But I still think someone is blowing smoke
Definitely a copyright issue. In the U.K. you would initially have to write a cease and desist letter stating how you claim the copyright. Presumably something along the lines of having an original drawing with copyright statement and date would be reasonable, or a receipt for purchase from the original IP owner.
You can only sue if you can demonstrate a financial loss due to the copyright infringement. E.g. Loss of sales of a drawing.
It’s quite straightforward if someone has the copyright on a drawing, or if they produce castings and sell them. Less clear if they don’t produce castings for their engine.
You can make castings from a copyright drawing for your own use.
You can only sue if you can demonstrate a financial loss due to the copyright infringement. E.g. Loss of sales of a drawing.
It’s quite straightforward if someone has the copyright on a drawing, or if they produce castings and sell them. Less clear if they don’t produce castings for their engine.
You can make castings from a copyright drawing for your own use.
I just found my set of the Solidworks drawings of the Black Widow. A college instructor did them and did them poorly with no rev. numbers. About 700 megabytes of drawings and miscellaneous files.
Anyone interested in taking on a work of monumental effort?
Hi Mike,
I would love to take a look into this project, PM me and we can talk.
Bill
I would love to take a look into this project, PM me and we can talk.
Bill
I would think that anyone redrawing this would need to have a set of castings infront of them to make sure that whatever they draw can be got out of the castings. Also if it is like most sets of drawings then only the machined details are dimensioned so you would need to have the castings to confirm the rest of the drawn shapes are correct.
Ideally they would also build it to prove the drawings.
At least that is the way I have done it when redrawing casting kits where the revised drawings will be published as well as ones just for my own use.
Ideally they would also build it to prove the drawings.
At least that is the way I have done it when redrawing casting kits where the revised drawings will be published as well as ones just for my own use.
I think it would be easier to make a correct 3D model, then 3D print the patterns with shrinkage allowance, and then make new castings.
Otherwise you will not really know what you will get, like the proverbial box of chocolates.
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Otherwise you will not really know what you will get, like the proverbial box of chocolates.
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Gentlemen,
I have zipped the Black Widow files into a 333-megabyte lump. I will send it to anyone who wants to try the work. I need your email addresses so I can send the file via Sendthisfile.com. You will get an email with a download link. So pm me with your address.
I have zipped the Black Widow files into a 333-megabyte lump. I will send it to anyone who wants to try the work. I need your email addresses so I can send the file via Sendthisfile.com. You will get an email with a download link. So pm me with your address.
Several of you have responded and now have the files. I suggest that those interested in the project form a working group to take on what will be a real challenge. You can send your email address to the magazine mail at [email protected]
