I'm making a bid to get us noticed by tooling manufacturers.

[Kaleb]

One day, I made a post on a whim to Sandvik's Facebook page concerning the tooling issues faced by us hobbyists. I wasn't sure what to expect, considering home shop machinists are only a small market compared to industry, but from their replies to this and a follow up message, it seems as though they might be interested. I'm currently waiting to hear back from them again. If they are interested in catering for the likes of us, this could be a big thing.

 

[Hopper]

One day, I made a post on a whim to Sandvik's Facebook page concerning the tooling issues faced by us hobbyists. I wasn't sure what to expect, considering home shop machinists are only a small market compared to industry, but from their replies to this and a follow up message, it seems as though they might be interested. I'm currently waiting to hear back from them again. If they are interested in catering for the likes of us, this could be a big thing.

Yes it could be. They make very nice stuff.

 

[Kaleb]

Heard back from Sandvik. I've been contacted by a small part machining specialist. Here's what he's said in the email:

Hello Kaleb,

I'm Patrick Loughney Small part machining specialist, I understand your interested in tooling for small lathes,
I went on the home model engine machinist web site and found the detail of the small engines to be amazing and they actually run.

Please give me more information about the tools you are interested in, hopefully I can help.

Best regards

To give him a better idea, it would be good if some of you could put down your ideas as to what type of tooling is of interest.

 

[Sshire]

It seems that many here, and on other forums, have the A.W. Warner HSS indexable tooling. My 3/8" Warner turning tools use TPMW 222 HSS inserts. Good carbide inserts for those would be of great interest to me for CI flywheels, etc. Additionally, inserts with geometry for non- ferrous metals ( since that is the majority of what we use) would be of interest. My face mill has carbide inserts with this geometry and i get mirror-like surface finishes on 6061.
Finally, small, indexable parting tooling might be of interest here.

 

[mu38&Bg#]

I was going to say, have you looked at Sandvik's small parts line? It's expensive, but they have nice products. I use 1/2" indexable tooling. 3/8" is available is from many manufacturers. On ebay I see s company in the UK, Glanze maybe offering indexable tooling in small shank sizes at very reasonable prices.

Look for screw machine tooling. For instance Ingersol has a line of parting tools down to 3/8" shank, but how many hobbyists will spend 115-130USD for a holder, and then buy a box of 5 or 10 inserts at 12-15USD each? Screw machine tooling (inserts) is available with very sharp honed edges that doesn't necessarily have the feed rate requirements of most tooling, ie you can feed at low rates and get a good finish. I've spent some time looking for 1/2" tooling for my Emco CNC lathe retrofit.

 

[Wizard69]

Heard back from Sandvik. I've been contacted by a small part machining specialist. Here's what he's said in the email:







To give him a better idea, it would be good if some of you could put down your ideas as to what type of tooling is of interest.

If you really want to get access to the Sandvik yourself and for the hobbiest community, the way to do that is setup a business distributing the products nationally. However don't be surprised to find put that competing with the big boys selling similar products is very difficult. There are already dozens of online suppliers you can order from directly. If you have a credit card Travers, MSC, ENCO, McMaster-Carr and a bunch of others will take your money no problem.


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[Niels Abildgaard]

Let us ask them to make 4mm triangular carbide,stellite and HSS bits for tangentials

 

[Tin Falcon]

One day, I made a post on a whim to Sandvik's Facebook page concerning the tooling issues faced by us hobbyists.

Bravo for reaching out .


I will say IMHO this hobby is Mostly supported buy small family owed business.
I Have attended the largest Model Engineering expo in North America for the last ten years. So I believe this to be a fair indication of the Hobby community as a whole. This Show being the Cabin Fever Expo.

As far as Manufacturers Stan is correct the AW Warner company of Latrobe PA does an excellent job. They make a fine product and stand behind it. I remember a few years back they released a new product at cabin fever. The boring bar was defective. Mike Warner went out of his way and tracked down all the customers through forums like this to make things right.

One Year at CF the tech rep from Greenfield Tap and Die gave a seminar on using an selecting taps and gave out tapping guides IIRC about $45 worth of tech material to each attendee.

Another manufacturer that is a regular CF vendor is PM research. Again great people to deal with.

Brian barker from MACH 3 CNC also gives regular seminars. IMService displays at the shows as well. As does some of the CNC machine importers.


Folks representing sherline have been at the show. One year grizzly sent a pallet of catalogs to the show.



Tin

 

[Kaleb]

I've sent your suggestions to Patrick at Sandvik. I'll post any other questions he asks here.

 

[mu38&Bg#]

Let us ask them to make 4mm triangular carbide,stellite and HSS bits for tangentials

These people make some, but they are short.

http://everede.net/everede_style_boring_bars_inserts.html

 

[Niels Abildgaard]

These people make some, but they are short.

http://everede.net/everede_style_boring_bars_inserts.html

Thank You Dieselpilot

5/32 inch is 3.97mm so one size for whole world.I will order some 3 inch long HSS and try.

 

[Walltoddj]

These people make some, but they are short.

http://everede.net/everede_style_boring_bars_inserts.html

I been using those from Everede for a number of years they are easy to use and sharpen. They have carbide bits as well those are what we used at GM.

Todd


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[mu38&Bg#]

Niels, I hope they work for you.

Kaleb, what does the hobbyist require that can't be had? I guess I haven't come up with anything I couldn't find. Usually I find stuff I didn't even know I needed.

 

[Niels Abildgaard]

Hello Dieselpilot

5/32 triangular is to small for my fingers and eyes.
Quarter inch for triangulars and 5 mm for square bitts for tangential tools.