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Niels Abildgaard

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A combined power and heat plant and a powered para plane opposed piston engine will both benefit from spark plugs in center of pistons.
Has this been solved before and by whom?
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https://www.pattakon.com/pattakonFly.htm
This guy has a bunch of different 2 stroke designs.
Haven't seen one fly though.

If a opposed 2 stroke is built like 2 normal ones then I don't see how it wouldn't work like a normal one if that makes sense...
So maybe a good starting point for you?

If it's a uniflow design as your cutaway shows then your need either a blower for scavenging or connect the 2 crankcases to the intake port.
Maybe a stepped piston could be used to get more volume in one case.
But then you don't have petroil lubrication in the other crankcase...

While on a normal 2 stroke you would need 2 exhaust pipes, however some what smaller.

A strongh and light couple will also be needed between the cranks for a flying machine, maybe the only disadvantage of the opposite piston design for your application.
Beside that I don't see any problem with your idea.
 
I like the triangle FBM, but this diamond shape Opposed engine makes me dizzy just looking at the drawings.
I have been planning one myself for some time.
I have spark plugs for an oil burner that reach to the center of a firing chamber. One could make such a plug.
The way gasoline conflagrates, I doubt it matters.
After years of runing, it could make cylinderbl wear when the fire starts at the edge opposed to center.
 

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I have seen this Morton Model, I think he had a single spark plug.
A piston trip igniter, (Google Piston Trip Igniter) is what Niels seems to be asking about. That is made by a piece of tungsten on a spring type fixed post, insulated with a coil wire attached in the center of the head and a grounding post with tungsten on it, fastened to the center of the piston, so when it passes the post, it breaks connection at a set in time location to create spark at 10° advance.

 
When I Googled piston trip igniter, I came up with this from a posting here in the break room forum. There seems to be a few threads on the subject.
 

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Picture of my proposed 2kW,one family micro combined heat and power plant has disappered so here comes again.
The two generators are paralel coupled and synchronize the two cranks .
Crankcases,generators,ignition etc comes from two portable sets with 34mm strokes.
I am not sure how they look in detail but not very new or different from sketch
The new and strange parts are mostly lathe things and I have a lathe with 48mm spindle hole
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