Myford lathe

[terryd]

Taiwan and HongKong both are part of the Republic of China. The Chinese will make damned sure that people are aware of the facts.

As for finish of lathes are you referring to paintwork or actual quality of engineering.

A set of countries all separated by a common language?

Norman

Hi Norman,

I think that you will find that Taiwan is indeed the Republic of China (ROC) and is a multiparty democracy with free elections every 4 years or so while mainland China is the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) and is a one party (the Communist party) Socialist state.
Mainland China claims that the ROC (Taiwan) is part of the PRC but it is not at the moment and is unlikely to be, at least in my lifetime. They have different flags as well.

See here: https://www.taiwan.gov.tw/politics.php

Terry

 

[packrat]

Quote by goldstar31
"Whatother 'goodies' came with it?"
Quote by skiline1"Serial no is on the rear bed shear at the tailstock end"

Got most of the tooling with it chucks, face plates, tool holders.. tailstock, milling attachment..but missing some small bolts and nuts
For one the nut for the tool holder that has the foot type jack screw to hold tite.? I thing it needs a special washer and nut. {see photos}
serial # is K25271 ..I did get it out of the truck today so I can clean it up a bit, but the temperature is in teens F here..packrat

 

[fcheslop]

Youre also missing the spring. It fits around the mounting bolt and just holds the clamp up I think Iv still got one hiding somewhere if you need the dimensions. I have never needed to use that clamp for the last 40 years but still use the original 4 way tool post. I have a genuine Myford quick change post but just dont like it
A nice first job making the nut Its just a simple rad

 

[packrat]

Quote"Your also missing the spring. It fits around the mounting bolt and just holds the clamp up I think Iv still got one hiding somewhere if you need the dimensions.}
Thanks I would like the dimensions also the washer size if you know that...

 

[RonW]

Hi pacrat, Being an owner of a circa 1949 version of the ML 7 I would suggest that yours is of similar vintage judging from the photos.
The serial number can be found on the rear bed shear at the tail stock end and reference to the vintage can be obtained from http://www.lathes.co.uk/myford/ website.
I've enjoyed mine and done some learning on it. Someday I hope to get back to "Minnie" which I starter a lifetime ago using a Unimat 1.
RDG tools has been a source for new bits and Myford UK can sometimes supply bits as needed. Most threads are either BSF or BA and RDG can supply taps for both. Spare bolts etc I get from a UK supplier https://www.ba-bolts.co.uk/ . Their service is quick and reasonable. Small quantities come to Canada via regular post.
Not sure where you are but hope this helps. If in UK Christopher Dooley at 12 Linton Trading Estate, Bromyard,
HR7 4QT, UK. [email protected] has a warehouse of Myfords in various stages of dismantlement that he sells for parts. Good luck.
Ron W

 

[bluejets]

As for finish of lathes are you referring to paintwork or actual quality of engineering.

Yes well, it's a lathe so I was referring to the machine mechanical fits and tolerances.
Regardless of your opinion of the status of the countries involved, there is a definite difference.
Different thing if it was say a "51 Ford Mercury.

 

[Charles Lamont]

For the tool clamp you do need a spherical washer, which you can make for yourself when you get the machine working! Instead of a nut, I suggest you borrow the handle off the 4-tool turret, so you don't need to use a spanner (oh sorry, wrench).

 

[fcheslop]

No problem, I will try and find it tomorrow
The few nuts and bolts needed can always be made on the machine once you have it installed
Tracy Tools in the UK supply mid ranged taps and dies .I have never had a problem with the company or any of the kit they sell over a lot of years

 

[terryd]

No problem, I will try and find it tomorrow
The few nuts and bolts needed can always be made on the machine once you have it installed
Tracy Tools in the UK supply mid ranged taps and dies .I have never had a problem with the company or any of the kit they sell over a lot of years

Hi,

I have used Tracy Tools quite a lot and find the service and prices very good and fair. However Whitworth threaded parts (BSW and BSF) are available from several eBay.co.uk vendors as are BA fasteners.

By the way I have seen a difference in nomenclature between the US and the UK in terms of bolts etc. I don't know if Canada is the same. The headless screw known as a 'se't screw in the US is traditionally known as a 'grub' screw in the UK - I suppose because it looks a bit like a worm or grub. A set screw in the UK is one with a 'head' of some kind (pan, 'cheese', round, Hex etc) and with full threads which continue up to the head while a 'bolt' has an unthreaded part of the shank below the head which is of full diameter and gives a better precision in a correctly sized clearance hole - of course for high precision, special accurately ground bolts or dowels are used depending on the application. Mind you even UK sellers use these descriptions rather freely these days. When I was an apprentice (too many years ago) if I used the wrong term in describing these it would, and sometimes did, result in a clip round the ear.

Hope that will help to avoid any slight confusion - "two countries divided by a common language".

Regards and seasons greetings,

TerryD

 

[accelo]

I too was missing the spherical washer. I ordered some parts from Myford and had thoughts of including the spherical washer in the order.
If they stock it I couldn't find it in the web sight. I ended up building one. The radius is 1/2".

 

[fcheslop]

The spring is 0.625 OD 0.750 long the wire its made from is 0.90 dia and it has 7 turns
The radius ed washer is 0.9 dia the through hole is 0.563 and its 0.375 long I measure the rad at 0.437
Should you want the hex nut is 0.706 across the flats 0.75 long and threaded 7/16 BSF not that you need it
Although I have the Myford made quick change tool post my preference is for the old 4 way or the 3 way by Guy Loatard the spelling will be wrong I also made a boring tool post that takes boring tools from 1/2 dia down to 2mm using Geo Thomas idea but they fit into a dedicated block with split cotters to hold them it seems to give a better finish due maybe to the solid mass rather than the tool just been clamped into a standard post
Geo Thomas rear tool post is well worth the effort it takes to make I have two heads one takes parting tools the other standard 1/4 bits ground to what is needed at the time
I also bought the Hemmings swarf guard used when grinding it has an extra felt wiper and really does stop the muck getting under the saddle. I does not take much machining a nice simple worthwhile fitting
Ref HK1580 not saying buy it as its easily made from stock
Good luck and happy swarf making

 

[packrat]

Thanks fcheslop for the dimensions
I was going to ask what size that tool post stud and nut were..
Thanks accelo for photos of the tool holder now I know what the missing parts look like.

 

[goldstar31]

Hi Norman,

I think that you will find that Taiwan is indeed the Republic of China (ROC) and is a multiparty democracy with free elections every 4 years or so while mainland China is the Peoples Republic of China (PRC) and is a one party (the Communist party) Socialist state.
Mainland China claims that the ROC (Taiwan) is part of the PRC but it is not at the moment and is unlikely to be, at least in my lifetime. They have different flags as well.

See here: https://www.taiwan.gov.tw/politics.php

Terry

I'm not bothered with silly flags and whatever paper work. I'm well used to HK but if you read deeply into things, HK is in turmoil despite all the so called assurances.

Both HK and Taiwan will not last the day if ROC decrees.

I was discussing this and todays problems with the HK and mainland Chinese etc etc.
China puts up with things because it suits China!

We- or you got a damned hard thrashing several times in my long history

There we have it-- Money, money , money with ROC firing the shots- when IT chooses


Norman

 

[packrat]

I see that Myford Ltd. has a few parts for the ML7, I could us some parts that I can't make like a gear or two
What do you posters in the UK think,? Oh is one US dollar worth 1,33 pounds.? I am in the USA

Myford Ltd
Unit 7/8
White Lee / Burnley Road
Mytholmroyd
West Yorkshire
HX7 5AD

 

[Cogsy]

I see that Myford Ltd. has a few parts for the ML7, I could us some parts that I can't make like a gear or two
What do you posters in the UK think,? Oh is one US dollar worth 1,33 pounds.? I am in the USA

Myford Ltd
Unit 7/8
White Lee / Burnley Road
Mytholmroyd
West Yorkshire
HX7 5AD

According to the exchange rate I just looked up, 1 US dollar = 0.754224 pounds. So a 10 GBP item will cost you $13.26 USD.

 

[goldstar31]

Happy New Year and hopefully a Happier New Decade!
As a poster in the UK and having been within a stone's throw of RDG or Myford Ltd, might i clear a bit of my whisky haze of Hogmanay and say a certain 'Don't Know'
Britain in less than a month is leaving the Common Market- and where things will be are guesswork.
Last night I whooped it up with quite a number of 'financial people' and simply forgot for the time what might happen with Brexit.
I suppose for a handful of buts, the present figures of 3 Quarters will do- in't foggy Yorkshire but that isn't the final answer in the US when carriage etc has been added, the price reduced by Very Awful Tax and added for US Customs duty and whatever.
Me if I was kitting out a Myford? I would do 2 things! I would buy the 2 Geo Thomas books and thus have numerous sets of drawings expressly for both Myfords and in Imperial dimensions and , if I needed a few more missing 'cogs' would simply buy them locally bearing in mind that there is nowt magic in 20 Diametrical pitch!
That is what Myford uses/used and if you want a metric converter and insist on 127 tpi, that cog will not fit.
63 will fit though not exact whereas Myford DID sell 21 20DP's for that.
No, they don't tell you- or didn't.

Me, here??? I suppose that history does repeat itself and Britain or what is left of it- we want separation- will be eager for good old Yankee Dollars and offer a better exchange rate.

Clearer now?

Norm

 

[skyline1]

Regardless of the Tax and import duty situation and whether you pay in dollars or pounds Myford bits are going to be scary expensive have a look at https://www.myford.co.uk and see for yourself

Best Regards Mark

 

[goldstar31]

Regardless of the Tax and import duty situation and whether you pay in dollars or pounds Myford bits are going to be scary expensive have a look at https://www.myford.co.uk and see for yourself

Best Regards Mark

Which is why I penned such an answer!

If one moves to Hemingwaykits for other accessories/kits, you will get the same answer.

Norman

 

[Charles Lamont]

I agree with Norm's advice to buy the George Thomas books. Start with 'The Model Engineers Workshop Manual'.

 

[fcheslop]

The Model Engineers Workshop has to be one of the best for kitting out a Myford and making the tooling as you go can be a great learning experience. I know the book is not cheap but it is full of gems
Harold Halls web site also has some nice bits of kit for the Myford and I find his headstock backstop indispensable
http://www.homews.co.uk/page463.html

If the lathe is in usable condition then it should be possible to make most spares needed with a bit of ingenuity
Good luck with it