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By now totally recovered from the 8 day trip.
Here is the Webbie with the fuel tank.
Tried to tank support KISS. The Mini Borer earned it keeps today to cut the segment to support and clamp fuel tank.
Hopefully will have the fuel tank and support installed and piped up. Looks like start up next week.

Need some advice from Gurus. Tank height to prevent flooding/drowning carb and engine.

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Gus--Very happy to see you home from your travels. The gas tank should be positioned so that the top of the tank, which will be the highest fuel level, is at approx. 1/2" below the center of your carburetor, where the fuel spray hole is located. Any higher than that, it will always flood and drip. These small carbs have enough venture effect to lift the fuel about 1 1/2" which would be the bottom level of your tank.---have you finished your gears now?----Also, don't forget the flat spring that fits underneath the rocker arm. It is very important to how the Webster runs. A good source for it is the broken rewind spring from the starter mechanism on a lawnmower, weedeater, or chainsaw.----Brian
 
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the tip. Been having my fair share of flooded carbs since day one with Gas Engines.
Found spring steel in strip form from TokyuHands.
How do drill the hole on the bottom tail end of ''vee'' spring?

Contemplating a trip to Toronto to visit a good friend sometime next year. How far away are you from Toronto.
Or Buffalo City in NY State or the Finger Lakes? Would be great to see my Guru's machine shop.
 
Fuel tank & supports in place and piped up to carb. Next will be a plywood base with Ignition coil and battery and all wired up. Rocker arm spring also next. With the total eviction of thieves' market old clocks hard to pick up to cannabalise spring.Bought spring steel from TokyuHands.

Next week should see engine up and running.

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Looks good Gus. Anxiously waiting for the video;)

Cheers,
Phil
 
Gus--I am 75 kilometers north of Toronto, and I would just love for you to come and see me. If you are travelling with goodwife (or not) I would be happy to host you for an overnight stay at our house. I know you and I could probably spend a whole day just "talking engine". I have about 16 of them here. ----Brian
 
Looks good Gus. Anxiously waiting for the video;)

Cheers,
Phil


Hi Phil,

I have two problems.
1. Get this engine started.
2. How to take videos and post.

No worries. Just another two skills to master. Gung Ho.
I have 1 1/2 week to get Webbie running before I go Thailand Deep Sea fishing.

Some history. GungHo is Romanised Chinese. Abbreviated from Prewar and War time "Chinese Co-operative Society" which was all over China. Co-op members and factories were very enthusiatic getting new products made in China. From Simple factories to Steel Plants and Foundries and Machineshops. During the war they made guns, artillery pieces,mortar bombs
etc in the interior.Machine Tools too.Besides getting war supplies thru Burma Road,the GungHo factories also helped supplying for the battlefront.
The American Advisers called "GungHo'' spirit.
 
I am in awe of your building skills Gus, and the time taken to do the build is impressive, and we get some history lessons on the way.
Man, that is great.
Gus, the happy fisherman no ?
Gus, the happy machinist yes ?
 
I am in awe of your building skills Gus, and the time taken to do the build is impressive, and we get some history lessons on the way.
Man, that is great.
Gus, the happy fisherman no ?
Gus, the happy machinist yes ?

Hi Gabby,
Both Happy Fisherman/Machinist.
My machining skill was bad. Could never drill dead on centre or hacksaw straight on scribed lines.From 2004 -----2010 still bad but with HMEM members helping/advising my skills improved from 2010 May. Used to be very impatient.The last cut usually deadly.Just learnt Digital Calipers are no good if want to cut 0.000. Outside or inside micrometer best.

Tide and tidal current not best for fishing today so skipped fishing. But next weekend looks good.Will post catch. The Avartar profile foto shows a 8 pounder Sea Bass caught last month on 20 pound line.
 
Rocker Arm Spring made of Spring Steel.
Went some obstacles to make above.
1.Thieves' Market gone. No old clocks to cannabalise spring.
2. Gave it a last search at TokyuHands found 5mm x 0.5 t x 1m Spring Steel.
3. Gave up drilling 3mm hole w/o trying. Perhaps if i anneal the other end,it might be soft enough
to drill.
4. Dig out Punch & Die Set which I bought on impulse from ArcEuroTrade 6 months ago.
3mm hole punch neat and tidy.
5. Tail end annealing did no damage. Spring retains spring force.

Punch&Die Set made in China earned its keeps. Made in China tools bought from LMS or ArcEuroTrade up to mark. 3mm punch still good.Expected same punch to go blunt or chip off.

One step nearer to start n run.

See fotos.

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Gus,
I like the punch and die set. What's the size range?

Cheers,
Phil
 
Hey Gus,
The Webster is looking GOOD. Something that good looking is going to run like a top.
Keep up the good work.

Bill
 
Gus,
I like the punch and die set. What's the size range?

Cheers,
Phil

Hi Phil,

1/8 ------------3/4 . and set of 9 pumches. The 1/8 remained in good shape after punching the annealed 0.5 mm spring steel.

Does not look like "Made in China".Finishing was very good. The English is good and No Chinglish Instructions. May have bought some aged stock from ArcEuroTrade.UK.

Wanted to buy in metric.Been using same punch while working as production
operator in Metal Box making Beer Cans with no beer inside way back in 1065.

Over next two weeks will slogging and trying to get Webbie started. So radio silence.Oops HMEM post silence.

Now about to start work reassembling Webbie.
 
START UP.
Spun Webbie with Makita drill.Spark Plug Port air discharge bit weak Intake valve spring stiff.Replace with softer and shorter spring.Intake valve can oscillate and disharge from spark plug port improved. Now mounting battery and HT Coil on to a plywood base to prevent same from moving and spilling.
Will try starting engine tomorrow.Basis HT Coil good,I should get good sparks. Keeping finger crossed.
 
Good luck with the startup run Gus.

Cheers,
Phil
 
Good luck with the startup run Gus.

Cheers,
Phil


Hi Phil,

Webbie wired up to ignition coil n battery. Hand crank with beautiful sparks at spark plug. Picked up HT Coil from "Rag n Bone" man for S$2 and was not very confident it will make sparks.Promise will spray coil black when taking "finished" fotos. Engine Cylinder also black.

Disaster. Woke up too late to catch my son before he goes off to "GoodRich" to repair some aircraft parts.So no petrol for test run.

Now out to pick up some.

Meanwhile I remained hopeful.:hDe::hDe:

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