Owen_N
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continuation:
I split these posts up a bit, otherwise they get too long with my re-edits and addons.
Topic: exhaust release temperature:
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1) Normal exhaust header pipe temperature is actually cooler than the muffler core temperature, with my 2-stroke engines.
2) high performance 4-stroke engines tend to get a bit of a red glow going on the exhaust manifold.
That would be over 530 degrees C .
Turbo exhausts definitely glow, as do formula one high-revving engines- the old V10s.
Possibly there is still some low level combustion going on with Carbon Monoxide and unburned hydrocarbons.
This clashes with the 200 degrees C predicted.
3) if a car engine is working hard, there is a lot of radiant heat coming off the exhaust manifold, even if it may not glow.
Enough to melt plastics several inches away- I found that out with a mk1 ford Cortina 1400- it melted the plastic clutch
pressure pipe.
4) if you rev up a 4-stroke motorcycle off-idle with no exhaust header pipe, blue flame comes out.
This shows that gas is still ionised, and probably over 400 degrees C.
Possibly delayed combustion due to low chamber pressures?
4-stroke Motorcycles tend to biff a lot of unburned fuel out the exhaust at low speeds, due to long overlap.
5) Anecdotally, I have heard of slightly glowing exhaust manifolds which you can see at night, if it is a sort of stripped down beach buggy front-engine car- definitely not road legal! You must have at least a firewall, and I think that exposed-engine hot-rods may not be that legal anymore. - fans and belts can be a hazard-
Possibly a firewall and a windscreen is enough for accidental fire protection.
With bad exhaust and inlet valves, you can set a nice bonfire going in the air cleaner.
Some aged filter material is not that fire resistant.
No air cleaner is an invitation to setting your motorcycle or car on fire- the old Triumph motorbikes used to do that frequently.
With some kind of backfire through the carburettor.
The carb tickler system used to burn quite well, set the carbs alight, then spread to the fuel pipes and fuel tank.
I have seen the result, but have not had it happen to me.
I split these posts up a bit, otherwise they get too long with my re-edits and addons.
Topic: exhaust release temperature:
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1) Normal exhaust header pipe temperature is actually cooler than the muffler core temperature, with my 2-stroke engines.
2) high performance 4-stroke engines tend to get a bit of a red glow going on the exhaust manifold.
That would be over 530 degrees C .
Turbo exhausts definitely glow, as do formula one high-revving engines- the old V10s.
Possibly there is still some low level combustion going on with Carbon Monoxide and unburned hydrocarbons.
This clashes with the 200 degrees C predicted.
3) if a car engine is working hard, there is a lot of radiant heat coming off the exhaust manifold, even if it may not glow.
Enough to melt plastics several inches away- I found that out with a mk1 ford Cortina 1400- it melted the plastic clutch
pressure pipe.
4) if you rev up a 4-stroke motorcycle off-idle with no exhaust header pipe, blue flame comes out.
This shows that gas is still ionised, and probably over 400 degrees C.
Possibly delayed combustion due to low chamber pressures?
4-stroke Motorcycles tend to biff a lot of unburned fuel out the exhaust at low speeds, due to long overlap.
5) Anecdotally, I have heard of slightly glowing exhaust manifolds which you can see at night, if it is a sort of stripped down beach buggy front-engine car- definitely not road legal! You must have at least a firewall, and I think that exposed-engine hot-rods may not be that legal anymore. - fans and belts can be a hazard-
Possibly a firewall and a windscreen is enough for accidental fire protection.
With bad exhaust and inlet valves, you can set a nice bonfire going in the air cleaner.
Some aged filter material is not that fire resistant.
No air cleaner is an invitation to setting your motorcycle or car on fire- the old Triumph motorbikes used to do that frequently.
With some kind of backfire through the carburettor.
The carb tickler system used to burn quite well, set the carbs alight, then spread to the fuel pipes and fuel tank.
I have seen the result, but have not had it happen to me.