Model boiler design information

Bentwings · Jan 26, 2022

I’ve had some real issues posting so I’m switching devices in hopes that things can be easier for me.
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I don’t have a good way to Maureen output torque yet. I think it can be calculated based on output from te dynamo or generators I need to get some tech. Myself here. May have to gage a small scale and rig up a mini Dyno.
I did get a prurient relief valve so as soo ss I can get out o the sho. I’ll test it and git info on heat the springs can do and see if I make some adjustment with shimsts exactly like our fuel injection relief valves and even has a atching thread . There will be a blow down line and valve..

the two turbine will be separate from the engines.

Bentwings · Jan 26, 2022

I really sorry. This spell check just won’t leave me alone.
im going tontybagai.

the dimensions are. 1” long 4”

d tube 6061 t6;aluminum 3/6” wall thickness. End caps 6061-t 6 aluminum. 1/2” basic thickness . They will have a dome shape repained by 8 832 button head hex drve stainless steel screws..10 1/2” of water. tubes. 1/4” bulkhead mounts internally. Two 1100 watt electric heaters. Boiler to rest on supports so
one end is about 1 /2” higher. This canchange as needed. 1/2” balsa insulation. Oiler tube to. Be polished. Thin polished stainless steel outer wrap. Decoration. Minimum fittings on top. water llevel gage on one end.. blow own valve on high end. exit steam into hex distribution block. 1/8” NPT fittings a much as possible. Engine has 1 /4” 40 tpi ME fittings. tap and die ordered. Pressure gage and siphon tube. Gear fill pump. Teflon rings with ptfe softer option.

there is a 3/8” tie rod between end caps with1/4-20 Socket head cap screw in each end cap.this is to prevent end cap blow out. Even with a different device it’s being painful. If I missed something please just ask and I’ll y and respond better.

Bentwings · Jan 27, 2022

Thanks or the heads up o the pressure relief valve position. I can easily tap a fitting hole for it on top of the boiler so that here it will go. I’ve already blown $50 on a tiny 1/4” 40 tpi ME tap and die so another $50 for one mor size wot hurt too much between al 4 pieces they will b only slightly heavier than the pen that I filled out t the order form. LOL. SAD. humor parts hould be going out for painting today. I gave my son some ideas for a drill and tap guide o e said he would make up something. Lack of mobility is o frurating. . I still need to consider some valves. Gllobevalves seem traditional. I have found some Teflon ball valves that might work. . The next thing that just came up is the. steam exhaust. . I found there are condensers. In fact cilternrn makes one. I had thought that maybe one of the turbines could act as a centrifugal device to separate oil water and air . This so thoughts would be welcome. I can see some kind of reservoir. I have an extra airline filter I could also use. Industrial ones are very complicated. I think they are called economiseers . I’m not sure how they work either. I don’t have one on my hot water heater at home.
I still have not found much in small diameter gages. Automotive stuff I usually 2 1/16” . They can take up huge amount of room that I’d really rathernot do.the cost of them is out of sight. There are cheap ones too but ugly and lacking durability. His little reissue really not very big and I like not to have to double the footprint just for gages.

byron

ChazzC · Jan 28, 2022

Bentwings said:
Thanks or the heads up o the pressure relief valve position. I can easily tap a fitting hole for it on top of the boiler so that here it will go. I’ve already blown $50 on a tiny 1/4” 40 tpi ME tap and die so another $50 for one mor size wot hurt too much between al 4 pieces they will b only slightly heavier than the pen that I filled out t the order form. LOL. SAD. humor parts hould be going out for painting today. I gave my son some ideas for a drill and tap guide o e said he would make up something. Lack of mobility is o frurating. . I still need to consider some valves. Gllobevalves seem traditional. I have found some Teflon ball valves that might work. . The next thing that just came up is the. steam exhaust. . I found there are condensers. In fact cilternrn makes one. I had thought that maybe one of the turbines could act as a centrifugal device to separate oil water and air . This so thoughts would be welcome. I can see some kind of reservoir. I have an extra airline filter I could also use. Industrial ones are very complicated. I think they are called economiseers . I’m not sure how they work either. I don’t have one on my hot water heater at home.
I still have not found much in small diameter gages. Automotive stuff I usually 2 1/16” . They can take up huge amount of room that I’d really rathernot do.the cost of them is out of sight. There are cheap ones too but ugly and lacking durability. His little reissue really not very big and I like not to have to double the footprint just for gages.

byron

Byron,

Don't know where you have been doing your shopping, but eBay has numerous listings for HSS 1/4-40 tap & die sets for less than $20 delivered; yes, mostly Chinese manufacture and many shipped from China, but several located within the U.S. No 1/16"-27 pipe tap & die sets in the U.S., but many taps and dies sold separately, with a total cost of around $20. Amazon also has taps & dies in this cost range, with free shipping for Prime.

In my experience, Chinese and Indian tooling is good quality, and the average delivery time has been about 2 weeks (it's taken USPS that long to get a 1st class package rate small envelope from Long Island to Hershey).

Good luck with your boiler, and keep posting,

Charlie

chrsbrbnk · Jan 28, 2022

Like he said quality is pretty decent just run them slow and make sure they are highspeed steel

Steamchick · Jan 28, 2022

Bentwings said:
Thanks or the heads up o the pressure relief valve position. I can easily tap a fitting hole for it on top of the boiler so that here it will go. I’ve already blown $50 on a tiny 1/4” 40 tpi ME tap and die so another $50 for one mor size wot hurt too much between al 4 pieces they will b only slightly heavier than the pen that I filled out t the order form. LOL. SAD. humor parts hould be going out for painting today. I gave my son some ideas for a drill and tap guide o e said he would make up something. Lack of mobility is o frurating. . I still need to consider some valves. Gllobevalves seem traditional. I have found some Teflon ball valves that might work. . The next thing that just came up is the. steam exhaust. . I found there are condensers. In fact cilternrn makes one. I had thought that maybe one of the turbines could act as a centrifugal device to separate oil water and air . This so thoughts would be welcome. I can see some kind of reservoir. I have an extra airline filter I could also use. Industrial ones are very complicated. I think they are called economiseers . I’m not sure how they work either. I don’t have one on my hot water heater at home.
I still have not found much in small diameter gages. Automotive stuff I usually 2 1/16” . They can take up huge amount of room that I’d really rathernot do.the cost of them is out of sight. There are cheap ones too but ugly and lacking durability. His little reissue really not very big and I like not to have to double the footprint just for gages.

byron

Hi Byron. Please don't just drill and tap the cylinder for the SAFELY VALVE. IT NEEDS BUSHING. The hoop stress calculations, consideration of the stress concentration factor for penetrations, etc. are all for Safety. So please get it right or don't do it at all.
Take care,
K2