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Diesel fuel is not really necessary, you can use waste motor oil. In this video a simple waste oil burner is made and he melted lava so if he can melt lava he can melt cast iron.or is diesel fuel really necessary?
Diesel fuel is not really necessary, you can use waste motor oil. In this video a simple waste oil burner is made and he melted lava so if he can melt lava he can melt cast iron.or is diesel fuel really necessary?
That is a myth that if you burn waste veg oil it smells like french fries. I have used waste veg oil in my furnace to melt cast iron and never noticed any smell. The same goes for waste motor oil it smells really bad when using a very rich smokey flame in my furnace.Waste food oil supposedly has a sort of french fry odor to it when it burns, which would be pretty cool in my opinion.
Brake disks are the go to for me.Hmmmmmmmmmm - - - - that means that supply if I were to get into this would be problematic!
Local scrap yards only allow material IN - - - anything out is to the smelter only.
Absolutely NO sales of anything.
Ha ha haww. That is really funni! We have you completely fooled. I live in the Eastern part (actually central) part of the Soviet where it gets cold in the winter, but there is rarely a lot of cloud couver in the sky. I know because I do nite-time telescoping. Look on a map and you can find the Cascade Mts. which stretch from BC to N. California (actually further). Those mountains block the rain. Seattle has a bad rep for rain--and a certain time a year it is pretty bad, however, my nephew lives in Eugene, Ore, which I thimpfks if MUCH worse. Funny thing is Oregon does not get that rainy bad rep,but I thimpfks Ore. is actually worse. Ore. on IT'S Eastern side is also like the Soviet, far less rain, even a desert.
In the Soviet itself, as you approach Spokane, it starts to become wetter but not the type of area that has much fir, it is mostly pine which thrives in an almost desert like area. As you get into Idaho, you start climbing the 4th of July pass (or is that in Montana?) and you get lots of snow, don't know about rain. The people that live in the area (Idaho and MOntana) seem to like it.
Moses Lake, at one time, had the longest runway for fighter jets in the nation--it was SAC headquarters till '72, but the runway has been cut down now. The area is being considered for the HTOL space vehicle but it won't happen (me thimpfks) for two reasons: too much population and the weather HAS indeed become less sunny.
Whoa?! 200lbs? you must have a really nice setup to hold that much. I can barely lift 20 lbs without help. (I only weigh 98 lbs myself). You didn't tell me you live in the Soviet! Me thimpfks there are more HMEMembers in the Soviet than any other place. You should invite me to see hyour setup. I sometimes come out to Spokane to go to Costco as there is none in Moses Lake. I also invariably go to Alcobra on Freya ST.I use waste oil for my scrap processing furnace, The 2 burners have a small (60,000 BTUH) adjustable propane burner built into the combustion air for the waste oil, the propane flame surrounds the nozzle for stable cold furnace ignition and shuts off when the furnace temp gets to the 750F manual to programed Control point of the oil firing rate.
The furnace holds about 200 lbs of scrap automotive engine parts, Depending on how much oil etc. is on the parts, I start and close the furnace but, if it needs more air for a clean burn I will fire with the lid open until the furnace and all the metal gets up above 400F or the oil has burned off the scrap. then I can close the lid. The actual melt time once the furnace hits the melt point is about 20 minutes. I am looking at increasing the 6" exhaust to 8" and adding more combustion air, The 8" will have a propane after burner to burn off any smoke that I get on the initial startup. The after burner will shut off at the 750F change over point. The initial 20 to 30 minute manual control deals with fuel/air variables caused by the oil on the scrap parts.
I use a 20 gallon tank that I pressurize to about 5 psi, the oil leaves the tank through an automotive spin on filter, I do use the high efficiency 5 micron ? filters, they cost about triple the price of a normal Fram filter but it does eliminate any particulate problem and they will last through 500+ gallons of waste oil , I have only changed it once in 4 years and that was due to a drum of oil that had water in it. To eliminate the water problem, when I start into another 55 gallon drum I pump out the bottom of the drum into another drum until I get only fuel. most drums have a few gallons of water in the bottom.
The oil runs through a pre-heater set for 150F, depending on what weight oil is in the drum, the heater provides stable consistent viscosity on the oil even below freezing temps outside.
The oil then flows through a 120 vac primary solenoid control valve then to servo controlled needle valves for firing rate control, I have override pots on the needle valves for control until the furnace gets above 750F it then is controlled based on the melt pool temp. it goes from full fire (6 - 7 GPH up to 1400f and modulates down to low fire (1 burner off and 2nd burner about .75 GPH) at 1475f. The control system uses an Arduino MEGA2560.
My burner atomizing air pressure is about 10 psi. using siphon type burners.
I will add some pictures from todays melt this afternoon.
Yes, I went there again today (actually yesterday by now) but with no $$, will get a check today and got some cast iron billets and some special iron, the type of steel that I got there before that I have needed and wanted since I bought it a couple years ago. They had some, it costs 35c / lb! More than the stainless! It is some kind of special stuff, it's the stuff that Genie makes their Genie bodies with. Whatever, I stashed it in a corner and will pick it up after work today. I thimpfk I will pick up more than I planned. The piece I need is 1-1/2 " thick, and that is what I found at tshe scrap yard. (Yay)Well - - - so you're 'that' far east - - - grin!
Oh well - - - I like my garden - - - so I'll still pass on that offer - - - grin!
Sure wouldn't mind your scrap guys though!!!
I use waste oil for my scrap processing furnace, The 2 burners have a small (60,000 BTUH) adjustable propane burner built into the combustion air for the waste oil, the propane flame surrounds the nozzle for stable cold furnace ignition and shuts off when the furnace temp gets to the 750F manual to programed Control point of the oil firing rate.
The furnace holds about 200 lbs of scrap automotive engine parts, Depending on how much oil etc. is on the parts, I start and close the furnace but, if it needs more air for a clean burn I will fire with the lid open until the furnace and all the metal gets up above 400F or the oil has burned off the scrap. then I can close the lid. The actual melt time once the furnace hits the melt point is about 20 minutes. I am looking at increasing the 6" exhaust to 8" and adding more combustion air, The 8" will have a propane after burner to burn off any smoke that I get on the initial startup. The after burner will shut off at the 750F change over point. The initial 20 to 30 minute manual control deals with fuel/air variables caused by the oil on the scrap parts.
I use a 20 gallon tank that I pressurize to about 5 psi, the oil leaves the tank through an automotive spin on filter, I do use the high efficiency 5 micron ? filters, they cost about triple the price of a normal Fram filter but it does eliminate any particulate problem and they will last through 500+ gallons of waste oil , I have only changed it once in 4 years and that was due to a drum of oil that had water in it. To eliminate the water problem, when I start into another 55 gallon drum I pump out the bottom of the drum into another drum until I get only fuel. most drums have a few gallons of water in the bottom.
The oil runs through a pre-heater set for 150F, depending on what weight oil is in the drum, the heater provides stable consistent viscosity on the oil even below freezing temps outside.
The oil then flows through a 120 vac primary solenoid control valve then to servo controlled needle valves for firing rate control, I have override pots on the needle valves for control until the furnace gets above 750F it then is controlled based on the melt pool temp. it goes from full fire (6 - 7 GPH up to 1400f and modulates down to low fire (1 burner off and 2nd burner about .75 GPH) at 1475f. The control system uses an Arduino MEGA2560.
My burner atomizing air pressure is about 10 psi. using siphon type burners.
I will add some pictures from todays melt this afternoon.
Damn! Was at the scrap yard to pick up my winnings and was going to take photos so you could drool but I forgot. Was too excited to get the metal home. Want to take a small piece and see if I can harden it. If so, it will be even better for the project I have in mind for it. did I tell what that project is? It's a cross slide for the lathe.Well - - - so you're 'that' far east - - - grin!
Oh well - - - I like my garden - - - so I'll still pass on that offer - - - grin!
Sure wouldn't mind your scrap guys though!!!
Green twin have you watched this video about a burner for cast iron melting? Hmmmmmm there was no cast iron melting and he sounded like a politician in election mode.
We all find out methods.I often hear that you should never pour straight down the sprue, but this is indeed the method I use.
Most folks on youtube pour their metal with the crucible elevated some height above the top of the sprue (the sprue is the hole in the sand into which you pour the metal), and this should never be done.
The lip of the crucible should be as close to the top of the sprue as possible, to avoid a waterfall effect, which can entrain air and slag into the melt.
There should be a trap at the end of the horizontal runner, such that the initial flow of metal that contains air and slag has somewhere to go before metal begins to enter the mold cavity.
The sprue should be sized so that it fills very quickly, and remains full during the entire pouring process.
If the pour is interrupted for any reason, you will aspirate air down the spure, interrupt the mold filling process, and generally ruin the casting.
The sprue should transition smoothly from vertical to horizontal, to prevent turbulence in the metal.
Turbulence anywhere in your sprue/runner/gate/mold system will churn air, slag, bifilms, and often mold sand into the casting, causing defects.
I generally use a 3" diameter short length of steel pipe (perhaps 1" long) at the sprue, just to catch any initial spill from when the pour starts.
You can practice pouring water from a container into a small opening or basin, and try to keep the sprue full, minimize splashing and turbulence, and avoid the waterfalling. Pouring metal from a crucible into a sprue is a bit of an art, and you get better at it as you go.
Ironman (luckygen1001) has excellent pour control with minimal spill, most of the time.
Watch his videos to get an idea of good pour technique.
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I want to know about the pours where you DID kill yourself. How did they work out?I have studied myfordboy's methods, and he has great success with aluminum, but often does not use runners and gates in the same fashion I do.
Myford gets great results, and so it is tough to argue with success.
Aluminum melts easily, pours easily, flows very well, and is easy to get a good surface finish with, especially with petrobond.
With the backyard version of "lost foam", which is not the same as the industrial version of "lost foam", I have seen mixed results; sometimes pretty impressive results, and sometimes very rough results, with aluminum.
The backyard "lost foam" with iron is a disaster, from what I have seen, and the industrial method needs to be followed for that to work.
I have not dabbled in investment casting, so I can't really say what does or does not work well.
I have seen some pretty impressive results with aluminum (see creast's thread).
I like to watch anyone's casting work really, with the hope that I can always learn new tricks and techniques.
And I like to play with fire, so there is that.
The "danger-factor" makes it pretty exciting.
The pours where I don't kill myself are especially pleasing.
I like the model engine hobby, but I REALLY like the model engine/foundry hobby !
One of the more fun and interesting things I have ever done.
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