Bob J's No.21 Steam Engine (drawings and STP files by Pat J)

Home Model Engine Machinist Forum

Help Support Home Model Engine Machinist Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
I don't know the technical properties of PETG and PLA...?
But this would probably run of 2psi of steam, too? - Providing piston and cylinder are the same material (for expansion).
K
PLA isn’t very heat resistant, and prone to deformation at temps around 120 F. PETG is more heat resistant and I use it for applications where the item might see higher temps. Living in Arizona, summer temps (especially in a vehicle) get to extremes and tend to melt PLA where PETG weathers the storm.

I have considered live steam for a PETG model, perhaps even a PETG/carbon fiber IC model with some metal components since I’ve been successfully printing spur gears for a couple years now.

John W
 
That's impressive at 2psi. Very nice-looking engine and prints. Definitely a smooth runner. My engines made of aluminum brass and steel need 5-10psi.

I'm really new to this 3Dprinting. The white filament I used is called poly cast. It's supposed to burn out clean for investment casting. However, I have had very little luck with that process. The finish on this project wasn't all that good, not near as nice that in your video. The filament I used for the base (gray) was much better, but on the smaller parts it had trouble sticking to the printer bed.

Bob
 
That's impressive at 2psi. Very nice-looking engine and prints. Definitely a smooth runner. My engines made of aluminum brass and steel need 5-10psi.

I'm really new to this 3Dprinting. The white filament I used is called poly cast. It's supposed to burn out clean for investment casting. However, I have had very little luck with that process. The finish on this project wasn't all that good, not near as nice that in your video. The filament I used for the base (gray) was much better, but on the smaller parts it had trouble sticking to the printer bed.

Bob
Bob,
Depending on your printer and print bed, a good washing with dawn dish detergent and a follow up coat of Elmer’s glue stick on the print bed usually takes care of getting the filament to stick.

A bit of time spent with calibration (temperature tower, pressure advance, flow rate, and retract setting) makes a huge difference in consistency and finish. Loads of info specific to your printer on “The Tube”.

John W
 
The Prusa XL has a multi part bed heating system, and that has eliminated all bed lifting, at least with PLA.
It won't lift even with a 14 inch wide print.

Adjusted the thickness of the first layer is important to minimize bed lifting.
The XL self-adjusts the first layer, and I think that is part of the secret of its excellent bed adhesion.
It is nice to not have to do that.
.
 
Last edited:
Hallo there,
I found these on the net and planning to start making in the near future, the drawing is in metric made by J. de Waal, he has got a ton of all kind engines, they are free for download and personal use only, I got the drawings via Pinterest.
 

Attachments

  • NO21-A3-SHEET-02.pdf
    494 KB
  • NO21-A3-SHEET-01.pdf
    456.5 KB
Hallo there,
I found these on the net and planning to start making in the near future, the drawing is in metric made by J. de Waal, he has got a ton of all kind engines, they are free for download and personal use only, I got the drawings via Pinterest.
That's a nice beginning. What kind of equipment do you have? There are several peeps on this forum in Nederland whom you might be able to meet in person.
 
J. de Waal has redrawn several of my drawings to put them into his format, and make them metric.
I don't care for the holes in the flywheel that he sometimes adds, but I am sure many like that sort of thing.
I don't like his extremely crowded drawing format either, but others like that too.

I sent de Waal an email and asked him to please stop coying my drawings, and make his own drawings and engines.
I have not seen him copy any of my material since I sent that email (perhaps a year ago), so perhaps he will stop.

de Waal has a big following in the hobby community, and I respect that, but a lot of it is not his original material, but rather drawings that someone else has gone to great lengths to produce.
There are many models on Grabcad that were built using de Waal's drawings, but actually they are drawings de Waal got from me.
The problem is that the credit always goes to de Waal, as if he had created the drawings originally.
So whether intentional or not, de Waal coop's my drawings and designs for his own purposes.

I am ignoring what de Waal has copied to date as far as my drawings, but he should not use any more of my drawings, since I have a copyright on my drawings that states "for non-commercial use only", and he advertises his drafting service on his drawings which he creates from mine, which is a commercial purpose, and a direct violation of my copyright.

The "designer drafter unknown" on his drawings would be me.
It is very disturbing for me to go to Grabcad, type in "steam engine", and see so many of my engine designs attributed to de Waal; its just not right.

.
 
Last edited:
That's a nice beginning. What kind of equipment do you have? There are several peeps on this forum in Nederland whom you might be able to meet in person.
Hello Richard,
I've got 2 bandsaws 1 benchsaw for metal, 1 for wood, a Sixis milling machine I converted to dual CNC/Manual operation and a Lantain metal lathe plus a Snapmaker A350 3D printer, I use Tinkercad a lot.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top