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Yes, I have to wait to see if I can get that revenge -- hot OR cold.

Patience , fleas, the night is long
Sancho Panza in 'Don Quixote'

by Cervantes

If you want a more religious theme - repeateated in I Claudius by Robert Graves is in Roman1 -18 et seq

Let all thre Poisons which lurk in the mud, hatch out!
as a victim of the inevitable bully- i've had my moments -------later:D:p.

I have been known to go to the local crematorium.
I was dying to tell tat one.

"everything comes to he who waits' and I'm over 90 years- wink, wink, nudge , nudg.
 
Patience , fleas, the night is long
Sancho Panza in 'Don Quixote'

by Cervantes

If you want a more religious theme - repeateated in I Claudius by Robert Graves is in Roman1 -18 et seq

Let all thre Poisons which lurk in the mud, hatch out!
as a victim of the inevitable bully- i've had my moments -------later:D:p.

I have been known to go to the local crematorium.
I was dying to tell tat one.

"everything comes to he who waits' and I'm over 90 years- wink, wink, nudge , nudg.
So you know about Robert Graves' "I Claudius". Cervantes--isn't that a Mexican beer?
 
So you know about Robert Graves' "I Claudius". Cervantes--isn't that a Mexican beer?

I went to a big funeral once and it took 6 men to carry the bier(re)
Cervantes- being Spanish said something in Quixote about the 'High Pair of Knees'
Lager I thought was an Afrikaans word for a lot of people lying down? I presume it was the alcohol
 
The funny part of all this is that after all the dicking around they'll probably make less out of the machine if they figure in the time they'll spend on the auction, someone has to do it and time is money.
I'm hoping no sensible person will bid and I can get it for 50$. I WOULD have given them up to 500$ but not now. Yes, it is very short sighted of them. All they needed was a simple two minute calculation and an offer, but who knows, maybe some farmer will want it. It just seems to me they went out of their way to do this. On the other foot, my daughter says that maybe someone higher up in the plant forced him to do this. However, I doubt this.
 
Yes that was a kick in the nuts, I hope you wind up with it in the long run.
 
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Be very careful buying that Grizzly. If it comes with a "Certificate of Accuracy" check the specs as best you can within the warranty period and if it does not live up to the cert send it back!
 
Be very careful buying that Grizzly. If it comes with a "Certificate of Accuracy" check the specs as best you can within the warranty period and if it does not live up to the cert send it back!
Thank you for that. Since I live in the Soviet of Washington, there is an outlet in Bellingham, of all places. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Grizz decided to put an outlet in Bellingham--it is a long way from Seattle which is basically the center of population for the Soviet but more importantly, it is far from any place on the Left coast! If this had been located in Moses Lake, it is a hub for the rest of the left coast with out all the traffic problems of hiway I5. I suppose if Bellingham has a decent port, that that would be a good reason, however, if Bellingham had a good port, it would most likely displace Seattle as the center of shipping in the Puget Sound.

Anyway, the point of this long winded epistle is that Bellingham is at least 5 hours from Moses. I have never been to their site but understand that they have a lot of stuff at cheaper prices because of "damage" or some other reason. They do not list this stuff which means one has to visit the place in person. -- 5 hours? 150$ in fuel? Is it worth this? If one lives IN Seattle the place is only a couple hours, maybe worth it, but what if you live in Portland? Eugene? San Francisco? In my opinion, even Portland would have been a better place to locate this site. Furthermore, what may be even worse, is the fact that their main site is situated in Missouri--a good central shipping place for the nation--the problem is that if I buy something from Grizz, the stuff is shipped from MISSOURI! not Washington Soviet! How is that justified?

Anyway, do you happen to know if a test can be performed at the sites? Can one turn the machine on? I doubt it, but that would be important to be able to do it.
 
Do have a look at Bellingham( Pronounced Belling-jam) in Northumberland National park.
It's the original one- and full of stories of Hadrians Wall and tales of Border Reivers- of rape and pillage whisky stills and castle rustling . Enjoy the Story of The Long Pac in Bellingham Church.
I was a National Park Warden- voluntary, of course.
 
The Bellingham store is a big warehouse with a show room. The floor models are not under power for liability reasons. The "High Precision" machine I bought had to be shipped in and I picked it up in Bellingham. It was crated and packed in Cosmoline.....a lot of clean up. When I finally figured out that the tailstock was grossly out of specs (1/8") it was too late to return it. They suggested that I could correct it with a little file work! After two days of set up and careful milling on the Bridgeport it is acceptable. Also the belts from the motor to the headstock were extremely tight and "Brinelled" the bearings in the first shaft. I will have to say that they stepped up and sent replacement bearings with just a phone call describing the issue.
 
The Bellingham store is a big warehouse with a show room. The floor models are not under power for liability reasons. The "High Precision" machine I bought had to be shipped in and I picked it up in Bellingham. It was crated and packed in Cosmoline.....a lot of clean up. When I finally figured out that the tailstock was grossly out of specs (1/8") it was too late to return it. They suggested that I could correct it with a little file work! After two days of set up and careful milling on the Bridgeport it is acceptable. Also the belts from the motor to the headstock were extremely tight and "Brinelled" the bearings in the first shaft. I will have to say that they stepped up and sent replacement bearings with just a phone call describing the issue.
HOW long was it till you found out about the tailstock? So you live near enough to the show room to be able to visit the show room? I read Grizz's blab that there is "too much" stuff on sale to show online. That's absurd to me, as it doesn't cost all that much to photograph stuff and put it on line. I know, because I can do it and it's extremely easy.

Can you tell me what is usually in the sale room? It's very far from here and I intend to go there and look but I want it to be worth my time. So was the "high precision" machine worth the cost? How did you fix the tight belts?
 
Do have a look at Bellingham( Pronounced Belling-jam) in Northumberland National park.
It's the original one- and full of stories of Hadrians Wall and tales of Border Reivers- of rape and pillage whisky stills and castle rustling . Enjoy the Story of The Long Pac in Bellingham Church.
I was a National Park Warden- voluntary, of course.
What exactly is a border riever? How does one rustle a castle? What is the Long Pac? These stories soundz interesting
 
Border Reivers? Basically cattle rustlers who stole both the English and the Scots. Castles- well, we had lots of them. Newcastle has still a 'new' castle but. it is pretty old. Up in Northumberland we had Pele towers which were fortified houses. The central heating was keeping the cattle down stairs to warm upstairs. Great stuff. For the Long Pack- best to Google it. The body is in a coffin in Bellingham Church! Read it and enjoy.
Thinking of 'Dobsons'- Oh Yes:p There was a Dobson family who were great architects- or one was.
Designed the Central Railway Station in Newcastle. That was John Dobson. Married well. Actually married a relative of 'Alice in Wonderland' or more correctly Alice Pleasance Liddell or on marriage Hargreaves.
There was a castle- but it was undermined and fell down. Son of John Dobson was blown to smithereens with an explosion of human urine. Great story. The castle was 'Ravensworth'- and my wife- sadly gone- but she was a Liddell and a Dobson on her mother's side.
Enough for now

Regards

Norman
 
Border Reivers? Basically cattle rustlers who stole both the English and the Scots. Castles- well, we had lots of them. Newcastle has still a 'new' castle but. it is pretty old. Up in Northumberland we had Pele towers which were fortified houses. The central heating was keeping the cattle down stairs to warm upstairs. Great stuff. For the Long Pack- best to Google it. The body is in a coffin in Bellingham Church! Read it and enjoy.
Thinking of 'Dobsons'- Oh Yes:p There was a Dobson family who were great architects- or one was.
Designed the Central Railway Station in Newcastle. That was John Dobson. Married well. Actually married a relative of 'Alice in Wonderland' or more correctly Alice Pleasance Liddell or on marriage Hargreaves.
There was a castle- but it was undermined and fell down. Son of John Dobson was blown to smithereens with an explosion of human urine. Great story. The castle was 'Ravensworth'- and my wife- sadly gone- but she was a Liddell and a Dobson on her mother's side.
Enough for now

Regards

Norman
To ME, a John Dobson is the inventor of the "Dobson" telescope--the cheap and easy to make telescope of just about any size up to 36", which, before John would have been only available to professionals. Thanx to John, we all can enjoy large (for amateurs) telescopes.

Oh, and thanx for your interesting stories--got any more?
 
Oh, and thanx for your interesting stories--got any more?

Well, yes but this is supposed to be a model engineering 'whatsit:)
There is the story of how 'Alice in Wonderland'-- well Alice Liddell belted the **** out of one of Queen Victoria's princes-- and that was then end of a beautiful friendship. Pity about that really.
Alice's or the Liddells were next door to the lady who did become Queen of England. 'Lizzie' Bowes -Lyon
So thinking of the Bowes family, there is the Bowes Museum in County Durham with the famous articulated silver swan. You might try to 'Google it' to see what happens. There is a U Tube pof it working
 
To ME, a John Dobson is the inventor of the "Dobson" telescope--the cheap and easy to make telescope of just about any size up to 36", which, before John would have been only available to professionals. Thanx to John, we all can enjoy large (for amateurs) telescopes.

Oh, and thanx for your interesting stories--got any more?
Well - - - - the big new thing with the Dobsonian version is the mount which does make it easier for a lot of amateurs to make the whole.
But - - - - to anyone on here - - - - other mounts are quite accessible - - - imo!
 
Well - - - - the big new thing with the Dobsonian version is the mount which does make it easier for a lot of amateurs to make the whole.
But - - - - to anyone on here - - - - other mounts are quite accessible - - - imo!
Yes, all true--and anyone who has a small shop like most of us in this forum will have the tools to make a really top notch equatorial mount, a small one--the ones that are too expensive for amateurs.
 
Yes, all true--and anyone who has a small shop like most of us in this forum will have the tools to make a really top notch equatorial mount, a small one--the ones that are too expensive for amateurs.
Yes, a little more off topic but watching him pounding in nails with the mirror blank in a video shows how forgive the process is and yet, with care and persistence, be extremely precise. An interesting comment that he made, and it applies to model/miniature machining as well was that there is no such thing as a failure, even if it means throwing the mirror blank against a hydrant and starting over, he truly did make astronomy accessible to the amateur.
 

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