I disagree. I am actually VERY pro education, the thing is, our children are not getting an education--they are being taught in the schools what is the parents' obligations: morality, rightness, truth--what the schools are doing is a travesty, they are teaching that it is proper to become gay, les, trans. There is nothing wrong with gay, les or trans in my book, it's that the TEACHING of this is wrong. This is a decision that the individual makes. Do they have that right? In my book, yes. Look up John Taylor Gatto--read a book or two of his and you will understand what I am getting at. BTW JTG got the best teacher award in NYC one year and the State of NY award for best teacher fro five years straight. HE claims the "education" they are getting is not education at all but a form of thot control. He is the one who wrote "Dumbing us Down". There are also some other teachers that have written books that would raise the hair on your hackles.
That's part of the problem, you admit that four years of English is important?
I have two degrees, what they teach in college is totally up to the individual to take and learn. If hyou pay your own tuition that means you are eager and want to learn whether it be for a profession or some other reason, but in high school it is not that way. I for one believe in good education, but seriously, why is it that the system believes a person who is operating machinery, or harvesting corn need four years of English? It's absurd. Most people who take the required math courses never use a bit of it. So you are so correct -- we need to teach welding, machining, machine operations, electronics and electric and a whole host of other skills but that is NOT what is happening. Look to those who drop out--they are the clue to what is happening. Those who drop out understand how totally irrelevant this so called education is. Teaching the shop classes is expensive because of all the tooling but even so, that is exactly what needs to be done.
Yes, me too, I workt while going to college. I didn't want to be taught krap and actually, I can only remember two classes that were total crap--one was education and another was a chemistry class taught by a total idiot.
So what you saying is speed the money on sport and arts.
Dave, I am agreeing with you--teach what is relevant to the needs we have in our world NOW. Sports may be fine for the few who are into it but do the sports get anyone a job? Do sports actually make a person a better person or their life better? Not really. Art? Well art does provide a few people with some skills but even they are like the sportistas--it usually goes no further. But as you say, the trade schools provide practical experience and learning that keeps on earning. I love history but history in grade school and high school cannot seriously be called history at all--rather it is (put your country's name in here) MY country is the greatest! And every country teaches that. Idi Amin's country taught that -- I wonder what the little boys thot, the ones in his freezer when they ousted him. Stalin's country taught that and so did hitler's. 80-90% of high school curriculum is just krap. The only ones who this helps remotely are those going on to college (NOT trade schools).
I do like kids going school and learning almost nothing to make a living. The schools prompt only college.
FYI The students should know what happened in world war 1 and 2. The schools and teach subjects so badly.
Actually, there are good teachers everywhere but it is not the teachers' faults for what is going on--it is government interference and federal restrictions and requirements for the distribution of federal money to the states. The requirement that schools have to have children reach a minimum testing evaluation is only the latest work of art from our goverment--(like grey plastic dripping and deteriorating in the sun, very ugly.) The result is that schools now teach to the "test" not to the job. When the first schools were set up in the USA they were largely controlled by the parents.` According to John Taylor Gatto, industry decided to get rid of parental control in order for industtry to have cheap workers. The purpose of schools is exactly that: to provide cheap workers and make sure that the studeents don't get other ideas (like becoming a magnate who controls his/her own industry in competition with the established 'big boys' or even owning their own small business.) Has anyone seen that horrifying Hulu series "the Handmaid's Tale"? Well that is how industry and even government REALLY wants us to be--subservient and shut up and do as you are told.
