That's sort of what I was thimking. A cheapo vac, the only prob with them is the noise, is there a solution for lower noise? I was thimking maybe a squirrel cage blower used as a vacuum--One doesn't need a LOT of vacuum, just enough to suk up some air/fumes. "Unfortunately" I have a collection of all sorts of squirrel cages. Also, we have a local junk dealer who has various junk all the time, can get a squirrel cage from him and he almost always has exercise machines junked--I mention that because I bought a powerful DC motor from him last year but didn't thimk to take the controls too. Someone on this forum, I thimk, told how they used it as a variable speed for thier lathe or mill. Cool