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ShedBoy

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Whilst trolling the net trying to find a spindle design I came accross this tool and cutter grinder complete with plans which can be downloaded. Word is it is better than a Quorn, I know it looks as complicated. The plans are very detailed and well put together. I am going to use the spindle design for a tool and cutter grinder. If you want a serious grinder this looks like it willl do anything. Lots of other interesting stuff on his site to.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.b.d.willis/bonelle_tcg.htm
 
I came across this a little while ago but with 74 pages of drawings I figured it would take me far too long to build!

Vic.
 
An Excellent build. The T&C by Glen Wilson is a nice one too.

Dave

 
I'm with you Vic it would take some serious dedication to build this grinder but I like the spindle plan. It will be perfect for a tool post grinder.

Brock
 
If your looking to grind endmills and lathe tools, the Wilson unit is pretty nice.....to say nothing of the Harold Hall table.

Dave
 
Shred, I have tried just about everything in the book, but can not get a web site link on this topic that will open. My aim is buy a set of the Bonell T&C plans. Can you advise what other sites may be out there.

Ed
 
Shedboy, whoops! I really slipped on the handle. It is still early in the morning and the cobwebs are not out of the belfry yet.


Ed
 
After being sniped out of a HF T&C grinder on E-Bay by $.51, I purchased Harold Hall's book, "Tool and Cutter Sharpening". I intend to build his Grinding Rest for my grinder, or build a separate setup based on this table.
Has anyone built this rest? Have you converted H.H.'s metric dimensions and materials to imperial?
I have scanned the build drawings from the book and saved them in a format I can see easily and am working on converting the dimensions. I have also found several suggestions for improvements to this rest on the web. I probably should start a new thread…

Chuck in E. TN
 
Hi Chuck

I made the rest a while back but have not got around to putting the finishing touches to it including scribing the indexing marks. I used the metric dimensions for the rest.

grindingrest.jpg


I did not have a dovetail cutter so I made one using a TCMT insert.

dovetail.jpg


It was a really interesting project and my first using the X2 mill that I had just purchased.

I intend to make a few of the attachments that Hall details in his book Milling - A Complete Course including the end mill sharpen jig.

So much to do, so little time.

I'd be interested in hearing about improvements that can be made to the rest.

Also have a look at this thread http://www.homemodelenginemachinist.com/index.php?topic=13764.0

Blu
 
edmiles said:
Shedboy, whoops! I really slipped on the handle. It is still early in the morning and the cobwebs are not out of the belfry yet.


Ed
No prob. ;D You might try searching for 'bonelle tcg' as I think that'll turn up some of the NTLworld pages in Google's cache.

FWIW though, I have a commercial T&C grinder that I rarely use...
 
What a fantastically intriguing machine! I have no idea how to use it, but I already want to build one!

Adding this to my 'to be CADified' list ;D

- Ryan

(regarding the Bonelle TCG, that is)
 
Blue_Rock said:
I made the rest a while back but have not got around to putting the finishing touches to it including scribing the indexing marks. I used the metric dimensions for the rest.

grindingrest.jpg


I did not have a dovetail cutter so I made one using a TCMT insert.

Nice job, Blue_Rock. I see by the 3 slots in your table, you followed the advanced plans from "Milling, a Complete Course", right? Are there any other differences in the rest from the version in "Tool and Cutter Sharpening"?
I also note you made the dovetails one piece instead of three. I don't have a dovetail cutter either, and plan to make the 3 piece version.
One of the "improvements" I have found, came from Harold Hall's own website, http://www.homews.co.uk/page59.html . He added 2 magnetic bases to hold the rest to the table.

Sorry, I deleted the "End quote" bit when composing my reply...

Chuck in E. TN
 
Chuck, the simple grinding rest lacks coarse left-right adjustment.

simpleu.jpg


Thanks for the link ;D
 
Hello,
Re Bonelle tool and cutter plans, The plans are readily available from a number of sites on the net.

If all else fails I can make the plans available as the designer Don Willis has no objection to plans being supplied in the interest of model engineering.

Attached is photo is the Bonelle I built some time ago.

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I visited my local Fastenal, and they don't carry inserts in stock. I've priced TCMT on the web at around $5.00 each, but in quantities of 10 or more.
I have turned up a body for a 1 insert cutter, and acquired a 4-40 tap.
Anybody want to sell me one insert to try?
Can the TCMT insert be applied to other tool forms, such as boring bars, lathe tools or endmills?
I did order a dovetail cutter from CTC tools, cost including shipping was less than anywhere else. But, it's metric and now I have to find a 12mm R8 collet.
I'll post pics of my progress on the HH Grinding Table later today. Got to get out in the shop and work a while while it's cool.

Chuck in E. TN
 

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