My opinion in a couple of thread

[minh-thanh]

Hi everybody !
After I give my opinion in a couple of thread of a few members when they have trouble completing their engine
Now I think it seems to be a stupid act, because with a guy who just knows how to walk teach others how to walk .
I just tried to help, like I get a lot of helps from the members of this forum - Once again I thanks for that !
I don't know I am right or wrong ? So if I make a mistake, I'm really sorry !

 

[TonyM]

Hi Minh thanh.
It's not wrong for a novice to share their opinion and what they have learnt. If more experienced people disagree because of their greater knowledge then they should explain why they disagree. (I think that happens more often than not on this site) This way we all gain a little something. Even the most experienced can learn from others even from the inexperienced who may happen to know something that they don't. It's not just about machining and engines but our life experiences too.

 

[ShopShoe]

Minh-Thanh,

I will echo what TonyM said above. It is OK. I find (and always did find, back in the day) that sometimes someone with abilities close to what someone is asking can provide input that will be more helpful than a very detailed and "expert" post from someone with long and deep experience.

It all is good to me, and I believe that this forum is good in that generally members here try to help each other.

Everyone should feel they have a freedom to voice their own ideas, but everyone should also try to treat others as they would wish to be treated themselves.

And I also have go a little-bit off topic to say again that the background work by the moderators to keep this site friendly and useful is greatly appreciated. These folks probably don't get thanked often enough.

--ShopShoe

 

[Ken I]

Ditto all the above and the hat tip to the moderators especially.

In my long experience I have seen a few examples where an inexperienced artisan does something that shouldn't work yet does and we all learn something from that.

New tricks are mostly thought up by those who don't know any better.

 

[CFLBob]

Speaking as someone you've helped, I thank you.

Ultimately, we all have to figure out how to fix what we're working on ourselves. Since we can't hand you the engine and say, "what's wrong with this" and have you examine it for an hour or two, we work with incomplete information. You might suggest something in one part of the engine and we find it's something completely different. There's nothing wrong with this.

We learn this way.

 

[bazmak]

I pefer respectful wrong answers/comments to obnoxious correct ones.Right or wrong we still learn something

 

[minh-thanh]

Thanks for that !
I learned from you not only machining and engines.

 

[Hopper]

Many times there is more than one correct answer. Machining involves a lot of creativity so there are many ways of doing the same thing. Everyone's opinion is useful in some way.

 

[goldstar31]

I agree with Hopper but it is hoped that if something is blatantly wrong that the matter is corrected.

In an odd sort of way, the worst situation is when good advice is proffered and none of us know whether it was accepted or- worse- studiously ignored.

Such is the way of things now!

Norm

 

[goldstar31]

Over the years, many excellent and valuable contributors have simply become disenchanted and 'we' are the losers.
I think that many others who remain will share this view

Somewhat sadly

Norm

 

[RM-MN]

I pefer respectful wrong answers/comments to obnoxious correct ones.Right or wrong we still learn something

I agree and that was one reason I quit visiting one forum. I also found that so of the obnoxious answers were wrong too. I may be a novice machinist (that's a stretch, not hardly a novice machinist) but with my life experiences I could tell some answers were obviously wrong. This site will let you know you have incorrect answers in a polite fashion and suggest changes so that all interested can learn from them.

 

[olympic]

I agree with Bazmak. "Respectful" is the key word. I have seen numerous sites where people are arrogant, obscene, disrespectful or all three. I have seen none of that here, and that's as it should be, as we're here to help, not hinder, each other.

 

[Naiveambition]

Being a novice I try to limit my remarks to the more experienced and will mostly only comment on things I've actually done vs not. Theoretically I'm a genius but reality says different Accepting others point of veiw is often hard for most, but I do believe that most of this lies in texting or digital messages. When the wording is straight forward or simple, the tendency is to feel the poster is being overly direct, but if said in person you may not feel the same directness. It's amazing how the tone of a persons voice will often soften the felling of a rough wording.

 

[Cymro77]

I know I am guilty of not always having said "thank you" for advice given. I am always grateful for the advice I receive - and I must say this site and its members has provided more than its share. For those who have passed on advice I would like to say a sincere "Thank you" now. In case I failed to do so at the time. This is a great site with many knowledgeable and "interesting" characters. DW

 

[bazmak]

I would also note that sometimes the message intent can be easily misconstrued
IE offence can be easily taken when none is intended.

 

[RM-MN]

I would also note that sometimes the message intent can be easily misconstrued
IE offence can be easily taken when none is intended.

The art of writing a message without any possible chance that it will be taken the wrong way is very difficult to master.