Not good. I have both old age and decrepitude. I am 99 7/8% convinced to try the 78. It is a lighter product with less lawyer speak than the 77. The $60 dollar price tag is a bummer however. Another supplier I use has a product called Trico Tri-Cool TC1. No idea what is in that. The advertising bumf claims it is the best thing since neat Scotch but I suspect the fine print on the label will caution about getting it anywhere near a living breathing monkey like they all do.