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matthewcohen

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Hi everyone,


I built a model 2 stroke engine with my great uncle, the engine is the "Two Stroke Glow Engine" at this website: http://www.john-tom.com/html/ICEngines.html

it runs good and it uses an "os" type "f" glow plug but I want to convert the engine to spark ignition. i really don't know where to start!!

thanks,
Matt
 
i was thinking mabye i could use a cheap stun gun for some of the parts? i know i need some sort of transformer - any answers would be greatly appreciated!
 
Okay Mat---here goes. Since it's a 2 stroke, you will want it to fire every time the piston comes up to top dead center. This means that you can run a cam off the end of the crankshaft and a set of breaker points from a mid 1970's Chrysler product. You will also need the condenser to go with those points, a 12 volt battery, and a 12 volt automobile ignition coil. The ignition points are part #018-4126-8 A110P and the condenser is part #018-1555-4 G120P. 12 volt coils are pretty well a 'universal" product and any car from the early 1960's will have what you need. Look on any of my builds on this forum, and you will see the parts am talking about. If you need more info, ask me.--Keep in mind that this style of ignition is good to about 4500 rpm. If you are going to run faster than that, you should go to electronic ignition .-Brian
 
I have noticed that a few people are using micro switches in their builds rather than a correct points system as Brian has shown above. Jan Ridders uses them sometimes and the practice should be frowned upon purely because of the figures involved.

Let us have a look.

The average micro switch is guaranteed for 3 million operations.

Say the engine is running at 5K rpm.

3,000,000 divided by 5,000 = 600. That equals minutes running times.

So after 10 hours running, you are into failure time, and maybe a lot less due to how smooth the cam is ref wear on the operating arm or whether there is oil and other nasties about.

How do I know this.

We had a second hand multi million pound envelope making machine being installed by a Belgian firm. Their engineer had broken one of the magnetic sensors, which stopped the machine running, so as a temp fix, he wired in a top quality microswitch and told the top brass it would be ok for a few weeks while he put the broken bit on back order.
I said it wouldn't last, and he convinced the upper echelon it would.

Half way through the first night shift, the machine stopped, with no engineering staff in the factory. I was called in on triple time plus a day off in lieu, and wired in a small generally available mag sensor. It was still running perfectly 5 years later when I left.

How would you feel if your car broke down after 10 hours use?

Use the correct points system, they are designed to last, or a magnetic sensor or even a TIM electronic job, you will not regret it.

If you are into basic electronics, here are a few easy TIM ignition systems you could use on your engine. I used to use the TIM 6, and it works great.

http://www.5bears.com/tim4.htm


John
 
Thank you everyone for the responses!! I especially like what blogwitch said and brian thank you for the very specific response.

I am looking at the agm engines thing and that looks promising...


-Matt
 
Matt,
Another popular ignition system to consider is one of the offerings by S/S. I have used over a dozen of them. Can be triggered by either points or Hall effect device. Plus, the owner, Roy Sholl, gives great service and support.
http://www.cncengines.com/ic.html
Go to the order page for a listing of products.

Gail in NM
 
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Gail, that is exactly what I am looking for. I am pleased that i can get a whole kit for 95 bucks. Thanks.
 

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