Argusmotor

[klaus giller]

Hallo Motorenbauer,
nachdem ich bei der Firma Argus um Pläne oder Unterlagen für den Vierzylinder Argus-Flugmotor nachgefragt habe und keine positive Antwort erhielt, habe ich selber ein paar Skizzen erstellt und glaube, dass man so ähnlich bauen könnte. Ein Gussmodell für nur einen Motor zu erstellen ist mir zu teuer, darum werde ich das Kurbelwellen-Gehäuse aus dem Vollen fräsen.

Hello engine builders, after asking Argus for plans or documents for the four-cylinder Argus aircraft engine and received no positive response, I have myself made a few sketches and believe that you could build something similar.

 

[aka9950202]

The sketches look like a good start. Are you going to provide more details like camshaft, valves and the like?

Cheers ,
Andrew in Melbourne

 

[klaus giller]

Hello Andreas, I'm glad if you like my sketches, it should be an ARGUS engine with four water-cooled cylinders. Unfortunately, there are no other documents than the images on the Internet.

And he should look like this:

Klaus from hilden

 

[klaus giller]

Please excuse me, Andrew, in my last post I wrote your name wrong. Of course I am interested in documents of valves and control cams.
Greetings Klaus

 

[klaus giller]

Hello engine builder,
the first step is done. An aluminum round piece, 120 mm in diameter and 180 mm long, was split in the middle and the outer contour milled. Today I have the two parts touched and screwed together with four M-5 screws.
The next step is to cock the crankshaft housing onto the support of my lathe and drill the bore for the crankshaft. If this has worked, the bore for the camshaft must be made.

 

[kadora]

please send some pictures from drilling long crankshaft hole .

 

[klaus giller]

Hello engine builder.
slowly the crankcase takes shape,

 

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Klaus

Great build so far, waiting for more to see from that engine. Unfortunatley I dont have plans from the Argus inline 4, but if you are interested in the inline 6 with 120 or 170 hp engines I do have basic drawings. Not too much, but maybe that helps.................
If you like, send PM!

Best regards from Vienna
Gerhard

 

[klaus giller]

Hi Grehard,

Thank you very much for your offer, which I would like to use. Because I have asked the company Argus, if they still have documentation for the four-cylinder engine and they answered me that they unfortunately have no documents from this period. My e-mail address is: [email protected].
greeting
H

 

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Klaus

Mail is on the way in a few minutes, i do have a lot more infos from engines of that period, including the Gnome Rhone engines too. I will make a complete list of things I have, an send it all to you. If there is interest of more stuff just give mail!

Regards
Gerhard

 

[petertha]

The 4-cylinder seems to be more rare information
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_Motoren
but they make a reference to engine possibly in German Museum?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Museum_of_Technology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus...etail_from_Deutsches_Technikmuseum_Berlin.JPG
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/...etail_from_Deutsches_Technikmuseum_Berlin.JPG
possible resource link?
http://www.aircraft-reports.com/arg...stellung-d-luft-t-865-5-german-language-1941/


seems like maybe more information on the 6-cylinder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_As_III
http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/digitalizacja_archiwaliow/katalog.php?cz=749

different Argus model engine just for interest sake
http://modelengineeringwebsite.com/Argus_V8.html

 

[klaus giller]

Hello Petertha,

Thank you for your links, the link from "Catalog Muzeum Lotnictwa Polkiego" was very interesting and new to me. Could you please tell me how and where to get more about the Argus description?

greeting
Klaus

 

[petertha]

Hi Klaus. Sorry I don have any more information other than those links, which I just used Google. I was hoping that there might be an engine in a museum closer to your homes in Europe & ideally you might be able to contact them or obtain additional documentation. Sometimes museums will work with an individual to obtain scans of maintenance manuals which can then be used as background image for CAD drawings knowing other fundamental parameters like bore & stroke as references.

some other examples
http://www.aircraft-reports.com/pil...ibung-und-betriebsvorschrift-argus-as-410-a2/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/537617274253310251/?lp=true
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/537617274256863101/?lp=true
http://www.aircraft-reports.com/arg...dbook-manual-german-language-motorenhandbuch/

Sometimes you can get lucky & someone has done the basic research, just for the fun of it to make 3D Cad model, but I didn't find any of that particular engine
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/CE2BE4DE126A36E126F8D5EC2693068B
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/01D26FDAA06FF26353CD2E9675C01CFA

 

[klaus giller]

Hello engine builder, the crankshaft is ready so far, until the machining of the two shaft ends. Pictures say more than a hundred words.
regards Klaus

 

[klaus giller]

Hello engine builder, it took a bit longer with my engine, because it could not turn after mounting the connecting rod bearing of the crankshaft.

When examining the design, it emerged that the connecting rod bearings had to be narrower and the pins on the crankshaft also had to be reduced from 10 mm to 8 mm in diameter. It was a very time-consuming job that cost me a lot of time.



This is how the engine looks.

Regards
klaus

 

[johnmcc69]

That's looking really nice!

John

 

[klaus giller]

Hallo John,
many thanks for your answer.
the Motor is a little bit more see,
regards Klaus

 

[klaus giller]

Hallo Enginebuilders,

 

[klaus giller]

The engine is a liitle more

 

[rweber]

Servus Klaus,

recently I saw an sectioned Argus Typ 4 here in Deutsches Museum, Flugwerft Schleißheim. If you need some detailed Photos, let me know. I'm there regularly.

Regards,
Robert